Egyptian Mines: According to his research, the southern Sinai was controlled by the Egyptians, and they maintained military garrisons in the region to guard the copper and turquoise mines. If we go the Bible, the location of Mt. Midian: One of Har-el's important claims is that the traditional site does not lie near the route to ancient Midian as well. : www.pilgrimpromo.com/WAR/discovered/html/chapter13.htm. Sinai to shift its focus to Jebel al-Lawz, which is associated with local traditions 600 years older than the traditions locating Mt. Sinai; it seems that its location was obscure already in the time of the monarchy…" (The Jewish Encyclopedia, Vol. Now this is the highest of all the mountains thereabout, and the best for pasturage, the herbage being there good; and it had not been before fed upon, because of the opinion men had that God dwelt there, the shepherds not daring to ascend up to it” - Josephus Flavius, Antiquities of the Jews, II:12. In Numbers 10:33, Sinai is called “the mountain of Yahweh” (elsewhere this name refers to Mount Zion in Jerusalem). Sinai in the southern Sinai Peninsula is about 350 AD. The traditional location in the Sinai Peninsula didn't "come into being" until almost 2,000 years after the Exodus: "The origin of the present Monastery of Saint Catherine on the NW slope of Jebel Musa is traced back to A.D. 527, when Emperor Justinian established it on the site where Helena, mother of Constantine the Great, had erected a small church two centuries earlier." Jebel al-Lawz is probably the most convincing option for identifying the mountain with which Jews identified Mt. He gives several more reasons why this more northern spot fits the Biblical account. The account of his visit does not give geographical details that help determine the actual location, but suggests the location was known long after the Jewish people left the mountain. They found caves that the local Bedouins told them were full of ancient writings telling of a multitude, led by Mussa (Moses) that came through the region. The most common candidates for Mount Sinai are: Traditional site: St. Catherine's Monastery in the Sinai. Standing like a solitary sentinel on the west side of Jabal al Lawz was a rock, 54 feet high with a nineteen-inch split down the middle. I knew in my heart that this was the place.". Dr. Har-El also argued against the other southern locations for the same reason. He had spent years preparing for this moment, and had spent torturous hours climbing Jabal al Lawz, the highest mountain for hundreds of miles around. His flight maps showed this mountain to be in an almost semi-circular range, with a vast desert area around it as well as more than enough room for the encampment of perhaps a couple of million people along with their flocks and herds. -- What is the location of the real Mount Sinai? Jump to navigation Jump to search. The Suder Valley is located in an area known to have been used by Semitic people who traveled to Egypt (1 Kings 11:17â18). Is Mount Sinai Jabal al-Lawz or Jabal Maqla? Comment document.getElementById("comment").setAttribute( "id", "a21fe0aab20d3df5eb71d9d661085721" );document.getElementById("i5753d0038").setAttribute( "id", "comment" ); Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. But the present state of research on Jebel al-Lawz requires that this remain only a rather tentative hypothesis. Franz suggests that Jebel Sin Bishar is the mountain that fits the distance to this location, and that another location, such as the St. Catherine's mountain or Jabal Maqla in Saudi Arabia are both too far to traverse in that time frame. Gabal Sin Bishar is a mountain located in west-central Sinai. The meeting between Aaron and Moses (Exodus 4:27) likely took place on the road between Midian and Egypt, but closer to Egypt. (Redirected from Talk:Mount Sin Bishar) This article was nominated for deletion on August 29, 2006. Natural conditions in the southern Sinai would not have allowed for enough food (other than fish) for the Jewish people to survive. The geology, soils, and vegetation in the southern peninsula could not support the Jewish people for the year they dwelt there. The result of the discussion was keep. The result of the discussion was keep. One suggested location is Wadi Musa near Petra, Jordan. Thus strongly suggests Mount Sinai was located near the ancient road connecting Egypt to Midian â a road still used today as an Islamic pilgrimage route to Mecca from Egypt. It was proposed to be the Biblical Mount Sinai by Menashe Har-El, a Biblical geographer at Tel Aviv University in his book The Sinai Journeys: The Route of the Exodus. Could this be the rock at Horeb that Moses struck as his anger lashed out toward the Israelites? It will enhance any encyclopedic page you visit with the magic of the WIKI 2 technology. Unfortunately, due to an Egyptian military presence near Gabal Sin Bishar, the ability of archeologists to further investigate this location is not an option. Distance: He also claims that the southern Sinai location is beyond a three-days' journey from Egypt, whereas a central-western would be a more reasonable distance. Sinai by Thomas Beard: explorationfilms.com/article-renegade-exploreres.html. Mt. Josephus writes that the mountain was the highest mountain in its surroundings. Sinai in the Hellenistic and early Roman periods. Another altar, man-made and of immense size, towered over them with petroglyphs of an Egyptian bull god engraved into the sides of the massive stones. However, the Exodus account mentions several oases where the Israelites stopped on their journey. I hold a very high view of the veracity of the biblical text, and Scripture speaks for itself as to the correct Exodus route." By contrast, certain mountains in Saudi Arabia are on the far side or margin of a vast desert in ancient Midian. Critically, southern Sinai does not lie on the route to Midian from Egypt. Gabal Sin Bishar (also called Jebel Sin Bishar or Mount Sin Bishar) is a mountain located in west-central Sinai. This location … Gabal Sin Bishar; Georgian graffiti of Nazareth and Sinai; H. Hashem El Tarif; Mount Horeb; J. Jebel al-Madhbah; L. Law given to Moses at Sinai; M. Mount Helal; Mount Serbal; S. Saint Catherine's Monastery This page was last edited on 24 February 2020, at 02:52 (UTC). If Ein Qadeish is Kadesh-Barnea, then both locations would likely become untenable for an eleven-day travel in the ancient world. That's it. Sinai to the site of ancient Madyan at modern Al-Bad' extend at least to the time of the oldest portions of the Septuagint in about 250 BC. No cave where Elijah took refuge from a murderous Queen Jezebel in 1 Kings 19. There are circular piles of stones at the base of Gabal Sin Bishar (Exodus 24:4). These include: All locations have proponents, but Gabal Horeb in the southern peninsula has been the traditional location since the 4th century AD (but notably not before).